From h.y.acetaminophen ＠ gmail.com  Sat Nov 16 01:30:18 2019
From: h.y.acetaminophen ＠ gmail.com (Hironobu Yamashita)
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 01:30:18 +0900
Subject: [issue:318] italian.ldf error on platex
Message-ID: <mailman.318.102.1573835434.5198.issue@texjp.org>

Hi Claudio,

Thanks for maintaining the package babel-italian.
But I noticed that \usepackage[italian]{babel} cannot
be used on platex and uplatex after TeX Live 2018:

MWE:
    \documentclass{article}
    \usepackage[italian]{babel}
    \begin{document}
    a
    \end{document}

Error:
    ! Bad character code (8217).
    <to be read again>
                       =
    l.3 \begin{document}

    ?

The problem lies in \lccode"2019, as
  * pTeX and upTeX are not Unicode-compliant, so \lccode allows
    only 0--255.
  * pdfTeX is not Unicode-compilant either, so \lccode should never
    work for 256 or larger code (silently ignored without error?)

Therefore, I propose the patch attached;
here I used \Umathcode for detecting truely
Unicode-compilant engines (= LuaTeX and XeTeX).

Best regards,
Hironobu


---
Hironobu YAMASHITA
GitHub: https://github.com/aminophen
Japanese TeX Development Community https://texjp.org/

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From claudio.beccari ＠ gmail.com  Sat Nov 16 08:46:39 2019
From: claudio.beccari ＠ gmail.com (Claudio Beccari)
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 00:46:39 +0100
Subject: [issue:319] Re: italian.ldf error on platex
In-Reply-To: <CAJCZBmRgUFQLpLKa4h+TXQKY7CM2enXS3yFSTJEoB8AUgjoznA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJCZBmRgUFQLpLKa4h+TXQKY7CM2enXS3yFSTJEoB8AUgjoznA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.319.103.1573861606.5198.issue@texjp.org>

Dear Yamashita,
thank you so much for spotting this error. I am really grateful.
In spite of having a Japanese daughter-in-law, I do not know Japanese, 
except a few words, and therefore I never tested my babel-italian.ldf 
with platex and uplatex.

Actually the apostrophe works fine with pdflatex, thanks to the LICR 
(LaTeX Internal Character Representation) that is being used when the 
source code is UTF-9 encoded, and the output PDF file is T1 encoded.

With the patch you suggest I will check that it works as expected and 
upload the new version to CTAN as soon as possible.

I acknowledge? your special attention.

All the best
Claudio


On 15/11/2019 17:30, Hironobu Yamashita wrote:
> Hi Claudio,
>
> Thanks for maintaining the package babel-italian.
> But I noticed that \usepackage[italian]{babel} cannot
> be used on platex and uplatex after TeX Live 2018:
>
> MWE:
>      \documentclass{article}
>      \usepackage[italian]{babel}
>      \begin{document}
>      a
>      \end{document}
>
> Error:
>      ! Bad character code (8217).
>      <to be read again>
>                         =
>      l.3 \begin{document}
>
>      ?
>
> The problem lies in \lccode"2019, as
>    * pTeX and upTeX are not Unicode-compliant, so \lccode allows
>      only 0--255.
>    * pdfTeX is not Unicode-compilant either, so \lccode should never
>      work for 256 or larger code (silently ignored without error?)
>
> Therefore, I propose the patch attached;
> here I used \Umathcode for detecting truely
> Unicode-compilant engines (= LuaTeX and XeTeX).
>
> Best regards,
> Hironobu
>
>
> ---
> Hironobu YAMASHITA
> GitHub: https://github.com/aminophen
> Japanese TeX Development Community https://texjp.org/


From claudio.beccari ＠ gmail.com  Sat Nov 16 19:21:40 2019
From: claudio.beccari ＠ gmail.com (Claudio Beccari)
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 11:21:40 +0100
Subject: [issue:320] Re: italian.ldf error on platex
In-Reply-To: <CAJCZBmRgUFQLpLKa4h+TXQKY7CM2enXS3yFSTJEoB8AUgjoznA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJCZBmRgUFQLpLKa4h+TXQKY7CM2enXS3yFSTJEoB8AUgjoznA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.320.104.1573899706.5198.issue@texjp.org>

Hi Yamashita.

I inserted your patch in my working copy of italian.ldf; you certainly 
already dit it in your working copy of italian.ldf. Now I try to verify 
id the patch is working, and I use the following short file

% !TEX TS-program = pdfLaTeX
% !TEX encoding = UTF-8 Unicode
% Test babel+italian.ldf under xelatex, pdflatex, uplatex

\documentclass{article}\errorcontextlines=100
\usepackage{iftex}

\ifPDFTeX
\usepackage[english, italian]{babel}
\else
\usepackage[japanese, english, italian]{babel}
\fi
\ifPDFTeX
 ? \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
 ? \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
 ? \usepackage{lmodern}
\fi

\begin{document}
\textbf{Babel}

Lingua \languagename,? pattern \the\language.

\bigskip

l'avvedutezza avanti l'articolo away ayo abaco l'accidente acerrimo 
l'adirato aedo
un'affranta afisico afoso l'agone ahhhh l'aiuto ajta alternativa ambedue 
ancora
annichilire l'aorta l'appurare acqua Aristarco artistica L'albero 
l'alternativa
l'enfasi l'eccezionalità l'altra l'ircocervo l'Illiria l'omeopatia 
l'astrattismo atroce
un'automobile avere avicola awak ayno l'azalea l'uguaglianza un'umanità 
l'abecedario
accolito un'acqua l'addomesticare l'aeroplano affidare l'agone l'aiuto 
l'assurdo l'abaco
un elemento un'eccezionalità un'inedia un'aorta un'occasione l'Occitania 
l'allampanato
ampolla annoso l'inutilità l'artatamente l'astrologia l'attenzione 
autore avanti avventure
away ayo azzardo L'Australia L'Europa l'uguaglianza l'umanità
\bigskip

\textbf{Italiano}

Lingua \languagename\ sillabazione \the\language


Codice minuscolo di ': \the\lccode`'

\unless\ifcsname pdfmatch\endcsname? Codice minuscolo di ' con pdfmatch: 
\the\lccode\string"2019\fi

\ifcsname Umathcode\endcsname Codice minuscolo di ' con Umathcode:
\the\lccode\string"2019\fi

I'I N'P H'E I'F U'P

\selectlanguage{english}
\textbf{English}

Lingua \languagename,? pattern \the\language.


Codice minuscolo di ': \the\lccode`'

\unless\ifcsname pdfmatch\endcsname Codice minuscolo di ' con pdfmatch: 
\the\lccode\string"2019\fi

\ifcsname Umathcode\endcsname Codice minuscolo di ' con Umathcode
\the\lccode\string"2019\fi

I'I N'P H'E I'F U'P

\unless\ifPDFTeX
\selectlanguage{japanese}
\textbf{Japanese}

Lingua \languagename,? pattern \the\language.


Codice minuscolo di ': \the\lccode`'

\unless\ifcsname pdfmatch\endcsname Codice minuscolo di ' con pdfmatch: 
\the\lccode\string"2019\fi

\ifcsname Umathcode\endcsname Codice minuscolo di ' con Umathcode
\the\lccode\string"2019\fi

I'I N'P H'E I'F U'P
\fi

\end{document}

This is not a perfect test file, because I actually do not know how to 
use uplatex with babel.

In any case the first two lines are the so called “magic lines” that 
configure the shell editor to run with the specified program; if your 
shell editor does not understand these auto-configuration lines, never 
mind; just use the engine you want to test the file by giving the 
suitable command from the command line.

Now the tests with "pdfmatch" and "Umathcode" are not understood by 
pdflatex; this is why I use package iftex, that defines the switches 
\ifPDFTeX, \ifXeTeX and \ifLuaTeX; these tests are false with any other 
engine. I do not know any package that defines the equivalent of 
\ifUPTeX, therefore I cannot really test with uplatex.

If you run the file with XeLaTeX or LuaLaTeX you get all the output 
lines of the document body. If you run the file with pdfLaTeX you get 
only some output, because the tests \unless\ifcsname pdfmatch\endcsame 
and \ifcsname Umathcode\endcsname are both false; nevertheless the lc 
code of the apostrophe is correct with "italian" and "english" (babel 
language names).

If you run the file with uplatex you get the same output as with 
pdflatex, just because the last test \unless\ifPDFTeX is false by default.

If you comment the opening and closing lines of such final test and run 
the file with uplatex,? you get an error from babel that complains 
saying that the used engine does not match the engines for which babel 
can work; among these engines there are ptex and uptex! I do not know if 
this is a babel glitch or if it is my fault because I do not know how to 
use uplatex; probably the second.

Therefore at the moment I have some doubts to upload to CTAN my working 
italian.ldf file; it certainly behaves as the current version, but I am 
not sure it works when Japanese is one of the languages specified to babel.

Please, can you give me some instructions on the correct way to use uplatex?

Thank you
Claudio





On 15/11/2019 17:30, Hironobu Yamashita wrote:
> Hi Claudio,
>
> Thanks for maintaining the package babel-italian.
> But I noticed that \usepackage[italian]{babel} cannot
> be used on platex and uplatex after TeX Live 2018:
>
> MWE:
>      \documentclass{article}
>      \usepackage[italian]{babel}
>      \begin{document}
>      a
>      \end{document}
>
> Error:
>      ! Bad character code (8217).
>      <to be read again>
>                         =
>      l.3 \begin{document}
>
>      ?
>
> The problem lies in \lccode"2019, as
>    * pTeX and upTeX are not Unicode-compliant, so \lccode allows
>      only 0--255.
>    * pdfTeX is not Unicode-compilant either, so \lccode should never
>      work for 256 or larger code (silently ignored without error?)
>
> Therefore, I propose the patch attached;
> here I used \Umathcode for detecting truely
> Unicode-compilant engines (= LuaTeX and XeTeX).
>
> Best regards,
> Hironobu
>
>
> ---
> Hironobu YAMASHITA
> GitHub: https://github.com/aminophen
> Japanese TeX Development Community https://texjp.org/


From h.y.acetaminophen ＠ gmail.com  Sat Nov 16 21:02:48 2019
From: h.y.acetaminophen ＠ gmail.com (Hironobu Yamashita)
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 21:02:48 +0900
Subject: [issue:321] Re: italian.ldf error on platex
In-Reply-To: <907c0966-3b92-d0f1-aa2a-2ec7238729c8@gmail.com>
References: <CAJCZBmRgUFQLpLKa4h+TXQKY7CM2enXS3yFSTJEoB8AUgjoznA@mail.gmail.com>
 <907c0966-3b92-d0f1-aa2a-2ec7238729c8@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.321.105.1573905783.5198.issue@texjp.org>

Hi Claudio,

Thanks for testing ;-)


> % !TEX TS-program = pdfLaTeX
> % !TEX encoding = UTF-8 Unicode

Sorry I'm not using any shell editor, nor using "magic lines";
I don't know how to set it up for platex or uplatex.
Just I type the commands directly on the terminal,

* For platex: "ptex2pdf -l test.tex"
  (-> just the same as "platex test.tex" then "dvipdfmx test.dvi")
* For uplatex: "ptex2pdf -l -u test.tex"
  (-> just the same as "uplatex test.tex" then "dvipdfmx test.dvi")


> I do not know any package that defines the equivalent of
> \ifUPTeX, therefore I cannot really test with uplatex.

The iftex package provides \ifpTeX for ptex, \ifupTeX for upTeX.

* On pTeX, \ifpTeX is true; \ifupTeX is false.
    \ifPDFTeX, \ifXeTeX, \ifLuaTeX are false.
* On upTeX, both \ifpTeX and \ifupTeX are true.
    \ifPDFTeX, \ifXeTeX, \ifLuaTeX are false.


I adjusted your test file to work with all of the following engines:
pdflatex, xelatex, lualatex, platex, uplatex.
Please find the attached "babel-italian-claudio.tex".
For convenience, I also attach my working copy of italian.ldf
and its source italian.dtx.


Best,
Hironobu

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From petra ＠ ctan.org  Wed Nov 27 04:36:13 2019
From: petra ＠ ctan.org (Petra Ruebe-Pugliese)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 20:36:13 +0100
Subject: [issue:322] Re: CTAN Upload: ptex-manual
In-Reply-To: <330430197.691.1574773347891.JavaMail.tomcat-ctan@comedy.dante.de>
References: <330430197.691.1574773347891.JavaMail.tomcat-ctan@comedy.dante.de>
Message-ID: <mailman.322.106.1574796997.5198.issue@texjp.org>

Hello Japanese TeX Development Community,

Thanks for this upload:

On Tue 26 Nov 2019 at 14:02:27 +0100  CTAN Portal Service <no-reply ＠ ctan.org> wrote:

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Upload information:
> Package:       ptex-manual
> Summary:       Japanese pTeX manual
> Version:       2019-11-26
> Uploader:      Japanese TeX Development Community <issue ＠ texjp.org>
> CTAN location: /info/ptex-manual/
> License:       bsd3
> Upload type:   announce
>
> Announcement text:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>  * More description in the English guide to pTeX and friends
>    (ptex-guide-en.pdf).
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------


 The update has been installed on our central server and will
 be announced about 24 hours later, when the mirrors have had
 enough time to pick up the new files.


       Kind regards,
    Petra Rübe-Pugliese
     for the CTAN team

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From petra ＠ ctan.org  Thu Nov 28 04:27:52 2019
From: petra ＠ ctan.org (=?iso-2022-jp?b?cGV0cmEgGyRCIXcbKEIgY3Rhbi5vcmc=?=)
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 20:27:52 +0100
Subject: [issue:323] CTAN Update: ptex-manual
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The Japanese TeX Development Community submitted an update to the

                          ptex-manual

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Version:  2019-11-26
License:  bsd3

Summary description:  Japanese pTeX manual

Announcement text:
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The package’s files themselves can be inspected at
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